Run-DMC Interview - Classic Pop Magazine (2022)

By Classic Pop | June 23, 2022

    Run-DMC Interview - Classic Pop Magazine (1) Run-DMC took hip-hop to the mainstream VIA crossover classics Walk This Way and It’s Tricky, but split after the death of Jam Master Jay in 2002. In 2021, rapper DMC talked to Classic Pop about his time in one of the most seminal rap groups of all time… By Will “ill Will” Lavin

    It’s not often that a hip-hop icon will rap for someone one-on-one, but that’s exactly what happens when Classic Pop asks Darryl “DMC” McDaniels of Run-DMC what we should call him at the start of our Zoom chat.

    “You could call me Darryl, you could call me D/ You could call me Darryl Mack, you could call me DMC,” he begins, tweaking the lyrics to the title track from the group’s 1985 album, King Of Rock.

    “People always ask me what does my name mean/ D’s for never dirty, MC’s for Mr Clean/ But sometimes I tell them when certain people ask/ That DMC means that Darryl makes cash.” As far as introductions go, it’s up there with the best of them. And as far as his name, we settle on D.

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    It’s been 40 years since DMC and his bandmates, Joseph “DJ Run” Simmons and the late Jason “Jam Master Jay” Mizell, came together in the New York suburb of Hollis, Queens, to form Run-DMC.

    Often regarded – rightly so – as one of the most influential groups of all time, through their hard-hitting reality raps, gut-busting beats and innovative fashions (Adidas, anyone?), the trio helped cut through racial barriers and catapult hip-hop onto a global stage, making way for a new creative force that continues to dominate pop culture today.

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    Besides being the first hip-hop act to be nominated for a Grammy – for Best R&B Vocal Performance By A Group – for Raising Hell in 1986, Run-DMC were also the first to appear on MTV, on American Bandstand, Saturday Night Live and the cover of Rolling Stone.

    In 2009, they further cemented their legacy when they were inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. But, for all their accolades, DMC is quick to point out there were many artists before them who played a big part in their jet-fuelled, meteoric rise.

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    “People don’t understand that the greatest period in hip-hop was the time before recorded rap,” DMC says. He adds that, while some people credit Run-DMC with starting hip-hop, there were many artists doing it in the streets way before the trio took it to the mainstream.

    Speaking of their seminal 1986 cover of Aerosmith’s hit from 11 years earlier, DMC recalls: “Before we made Walk This Way, Melle Mel and Kool Moe Dee rapped over the track. They just never did it on a record.” While that may be true, it was Run-DMC’s version which would become one of the biggest-selling hip-hop tracks of the 80s.

    Run-DMC’s latest release sees them collaborate with boutique vinyl brand 12on12 to curate an exclusive limited edition 12″ compilation, complete with bespoke artwork from rising LA artist Reena Tolentino (aka RT).

    Offering a fascinating insight into the group’s influences, it highlights early rap trailblazers as well as songs that helped form the sonic foundations of a burgeoning hip-hop sound as it emerged and evolved in New York in the late 70s and early 80s.

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    “It’s just a fraction of the hundreds of songs that allowed us to exist,” DMC explains. “These songs define not just our childhood, but our existence during a time of death, destruction, despair and struggle. When you go back to that time period, the Bronx was burning.

    “We had to make something out of nothing,” he says, remembering hip-hop’s early inception. “Well, people thought we had nothing but in fact we had everything. The songs that were playing around us at the time, we had to utilise in order to show the world who we are.

    “So before [The Sugarhill Gang’s] Rapper’s Delight, before [Afrika Bambaataa And The Soulsonic Force’s] Planet Rock, before we were sampling, we would use this white group from Germany, Kraftwerk. We used their sonic vibe because it felt exactly the same way that we were feeling.”

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    Kraftwerk wielded an enormous influence on the early years of rap and beyond. From Afrika Bambaataa, The Fearless Four and Sir Mix-A-Lot, to more recent artists like Busta Rhymes, Jay-Z and Wu-Tang Clan’s Raekwon, the German giants are forever woven into the fabric of hip-hop, which is why their 1977 classic Trans-Europe Express features on Run-DMC’s 12on12 compilation.

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    “They are the foundation,” DMC says. “There is no hip-hop without James Brown or Kraftwerk.”

    Another track that was instrumental in the early growth of hip-hop chosen for Run-DMC’s playlist is Chic’s 1979 classic Good Times. Its deep, resonant bass riff and string stabs wound up being the foundation upon which rap’s first hit single, Rapper’s Delight, was built.

    Used without permission, Chic’s Nile Rodgers and the late Bernard Edwards threatened to sue Sugar Hill Records for copyright infringement. A settlement was later reached that gave Rodgers and Edwards songwriting credits.

    “I never liked Rapper’s Delight, because it didn’t sound like Good Times,” DMC admits, explaining he wasn’t a fan of the label’s decision to have the track reproduced, as opposed to sampling the original. “We were mad that Sugar Hill Records didn’t use the real one. With them replaying it, they took away the realness of it. It sounded plastic and corny.”

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    DMC thinks back to the 70s, when DJs Grand Wizzard Theodore and Grandmaster Flash played Chic’s original break at block parties, and how “hard” the record sounded.

    DMC and Def Jam Records co-founder Rick Rubin often discuss the superiority of Good Times. “Even though it was a disco record, it was hard,” explains DMC. “We thought Rapper’s Delight was fake, because it didn’t sound like Nile’s. It sounded way too clean.”

    As the purpose of the group’s new compilation is to shine a light on some of the most important songs to influence hip-hop’s early beginnings, it wouldn’t be right not to include Run-DMC’s own Rock Box.

    The 1984 track brought rock and rap together for the first time, in a genre-defining moment that helped rap cross over to the mainstream, as well as breaking down colour barriers, which paved the way for a new wave of Black artists to take over the airwaves for years to come.

    But things could have been so different if Run and DMC had had their way. “We didn’t like it at first,” admits DMC, revealing that producer Larry Smith and Jam Master Jay were responsible for fighting to keep it the crossover behemoth that it is today.

    “Me and Run were thinking from a limited hip-hop perspective. It was supposed to just be the beat, and then the guitars were supposed to come in and play for maybe four to eight bars. We wanted it to be like the hip-hop in the park. We wanted to be the church of the street, not realising we could be The Rolling Stones.”

    The addition of Eddie Martinez’s riff – which many regard as the hip-hop equivalent to Eddie Van Halen’s riff on Michael Jackson’s Beat It – turned Run-DMC’s little hip-hop in the park idea into a timeless rock‘n’roll stadium anthem. It also paved the way for their even bigger rock-rap crossover, Walk This Way, with Aerosmith. “There is no Walk This Way if there’s no Rock Box,” DMC maintains.

    Other tracks on the 12on12 compilation include The Sugarhill Gang’s Apache (Jump On It), MFSB’s Love Is The Message and Seven Minutes Of Funk by The Whole Darn Family, which was famously sampled on Ain’t No N***a for Jay-Z’s 1996 debut album Reasonable Doubt.

    One song that appears that might surprise some is Kenny G’s The Look Of Love. Although he’s been enjoying a resurgence as of late, thanks to recent collaborations with the likes of Kanye West (Use This Gospel) and The Weeknd (In Your Eyes), for years Kenny G – who started his career playing as part of Barry White’s Love Unlimited Orchestra – has been the butt of countless jokes.

    The mainstream has long cracked jokes that Kenny makes elevator music; there are hundreds of Facebook groups claiming he killed jazz because of his smooth sound.

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    DMC doesn’t entertain the criticism. “Kenny G is on there because it’s music,” he boldly states. “He’s got some great riffs and lines that we can sample. People think we’re just about James Brown, Kraftwerk and beats. No, it’s Bob James’ Take Me To The Mardi Gras. It’s Rush’s Tom Sawyer, it’s Toto. It’s little orphan Annie’s Hard Knock Life. Why would anyone think that these hard B-Boys from the city wouldn’t listen to some Kenny G?”

    The saxophonist’s inclusion on the playlist is also a homage to Run-DMC’s long-time DJ, Jam Master Jay, who was murdered in his recording studio in 2002. “We wanted to put something on there that Jay would have picked,” DMC explains.

    “You’ve got to understand, when people look at DJs – and this is where racism, separation and ignorance is funny – they will look at this young, Black man and assume he knows nothing about jazz or opera. There’s a stereotype there. But in fact the best producers are DJs and musicians because they know a thing or two about music.”

    Of course, Jay’s bread and butter was rap, his ear always firmly fixed to what the streets were doing. Instrumental in developing the careers of Onyx – whose 1993 track Slam is a quintessential hip-hop anthem – and 50 Cent, Jay worked with many artists via his own label, JMJ Records. Even though rap’s landscape has changed hugely since his death, DMC thinks his former DJ would have been right in the thick of things if he were still alive.

    “Jay would be producing all of these guys right now. He’d have a ‘Young’ this, a ‘Lil’ that,” he says, referencing the names favoured by many of today’s rappers. “There’s no question Jay would have a Lil Baby or an artist like that right now. He’d definitely have a label position, too.”

    Underscoring Jay’s importance to Run-DMC, DMC adds: “If you look at our evolution, Jay was always the one that transformed into what was happening at the time. If you look at Jay’s style, he was the guy that got dreads. He was the guy that got braids. The way Run-DMC dressed, that was because of him.”

    Before DMC jumps off the call, there’s one final question that needs to be answered. Being that it’s been 20 years since Run-DMC put out Crown Royal, their seventh and final album, have the surviving members talked about lacing up their Adidas once more to do another album?

    “It can’t happen,” DMC says, pointing out the lack of Jay’s presence behind the turntables. “That’s like trying to put The Beatles back together without John and George. You just can’t do it.”

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    All the first three LPs were on the Profile label, but for this third, Run-DMC turned back to their manager – and Run’s older brother – Russell Simmons who had founded the Def Jam label with Rick Rubin in 1983.. “ THE HIP-HOP RECORDS THAT WERE COMING OUT WERE REALLY LIKE DISCO OR R&B, BUT WITH A PERSON RAPPING ON IT” – RICK RUBIN. Here was the irony: Rubin wanted to take hip-hop back to the sound of the streets and live urban clubs.. When Eminem inducted Run-DMC into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2009, the second hip-hop group to make it after Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five, he called them “something tough.. Rapping.. My Adidas changed all that.. That’s all it is; showing off and live drums.

    [This interview was originally posted on IGN For Men on March 30, 2001] If you don't realize the importance of Run DMC , then you need to go back to school.. I mean Jam Master Jay, Darryl "DMC" McDaniels, and Joe "Run" Simmons not only rocked the turntables and microphones, they made black pork pie hats, fat dookey rope, and fat laced Adidas the gear to be seen in.. What it is, Run DMC, we do about 200-to-250 shows a year, so people don't really understand how many days out of the year that $%&* really is.. But I used to scratch every single day but now I scratch like about 200 days out of the year [laughs].. JMJ: Aww, man, I ain't nowhere near that age yet!. JMJ: I don't know man.. IGN: You don't wax your hands up with Nivea or soak 'em in ice water or anything like that then?. IGN: Do you remember the first record you ever bought and then on top of that, the first record you ever $%^&ed up by scratching?. JMJ: You know, the first record that I requested my pops to buy was "Voices Inside My Head" by The Police.. IGN: Was he pissed off when he came in on you scratching up his record?. So I'd catch the record on the radio and I'd slap the same record on my turntable, but put it like two beats behind it so they were repeating each other, you know what I'm sayin'?. My little brother's got skills" as opposed to "Don't be $%^&in' with my records!". I didn't have an older brother, but I had a friend who had a coupla brothers in college and she would lend me all of their old records, The Who, Yes, stuff like that.. The worst thing was that when my pops would come home I couldn't play the Last Poets album.

    “And that’s one thing that I’m so proud of, having those 20-odd years clean, without a drink and a drug.. After a seven-year hiatus, Wet Wet Wet reformed in 2004 – a reconciliation partly cemented at Marti’s mother’s funeral – and continued as a going concern for another 13 years, alongside Marti’s solo and musical careers.. This is an album I couldn’t have done with Wet Wet Wet.. And so that’s why, if I think about Wet Wet Wet and stuff like that, I always think: it’s a shame the way it ended, you know.. When I chose to take my foot off the pedal with that to focus on writing my music or going and doing musical theatre, it just wasn’t acceptable to them.”. “I said, ‘Hey, I don’t want that to happen…’ But then it was all kind of lawyers and stuff like that, so you just go, ‘Well, I’ll park it up’.. I’ve got a new record, a new record company, there’s a great buzz.

    There isn't a sales record they haven't broken, a chart they haven't cracked, an arena they haven't rocked, a shell-toed and fat-laced b-boy they haven't shocked.. Entitled Crown Royal, it's not so much a comeback album as a collaborative effort between the Kings and some of their royal subjects (Kid Rock, Sugar Ray, Everlast, Nas, Method Man, and others all pop up on various tracks).. This time around we get to the heart of the matter with the Reverend Run, aka Joseph Simmons, ordained minister of rap, brother to kingpin Russell Simmons, and the "Run" in Run DMC.. In case you didn't know, Spence D. asked the questions while Run rocked the answers (as if you couldn't a figured that one out on your own).. Run: We're in competition with ourselves.. Take The Money And Run, c'mon, take the money and run!. [Here run launches into a raspy version of Steve Millers "Take The Money And Run," which, not ironically, is also the chorus that Everlast sings on Run DMC's new song of the same name]. Run: There were NONE before us.. And they've got this perception of Run DMC like maybe we shouldn't hang out with Kid Rock and make records with him.

    This is Classic Hip Hop Magazine ’s first official album ranking.. While also dropping many jewels about personal responsibility and success.. Run so he could officially spread the good word.. Sadly the third member of the group, their DJ, Jam Master Jay, was murdered at a recording studio in Queens.. Their last album was officially a Run-DMC album but should have been a RUN-Jam Master Jay album.. Still Crown Royal is packed with good contemporary hip-hop tracks.. The beginning of the album is really strong, with great songs like “It’s Over”, “Queens Day” and “Crown Royal”, but the album levels out during the second half.. They also drop most of their rock influenced material and focus on contemporary rap/dance sounds.. The title track is a classic.. The album is incredibly solid from beginning to end and the track “Beats To The Rhyme” is a classic.. RUN-DMC are true legends who produced many classic songs and this album shows you why they are the greatest hip-hop group of all-time!

    The memory is still quite vivid — I was the last one in the prom night limo, traveling across Queen Blvd.. en route to the bridge (Throggs Neck) that was going to return me to my home in the Boogie-down.. Run.. Seventeen years after the release of “King of Rock” it is an accepted fact the group will become the first hip-hop act indicted in the Rock Hall, when they are eligible for induction in 2008.. At the behest of Rick Rubin, then the partner of Run’s brotha and current “race man” Russell, the group began to incorporate guitar riffs the year before (also courtesy of Martinez) on “Rock Box” which was the lead single from their first full-length disc Run-DMC (1984).. With the success of Run-DMC’s third full-length disc Raising Hell (1986) and singles like “Walk This Way,” “It’s Tricky” (which slurred the buzz riff from The Knack’s “My Sharona”), and the damn-near insipid “You Be Illin’,” the group became a white frat-boy favorite and laid the early foundations of hip-hop’s mass appeal and Russell Simmons’s burgeoning urban style empire.. Though the Kings of Rock had moderate commercial success with the god-awful “Mary, Mary” (from Tougher Than Leather ) their follow-up recording, Back From Hell (1990) (which included “The Ave.” the group’s first attempt at “social commentary” since Raising Hell ‘s “Proud to be Black” and the early classics “It’s Like That” and “Hard Times”) met with indifference, though it was arguably their strongest material since King of Rock .. and appearing in character as Rev.

    “All of the things that Run-DMC represented was already being done but nobody was bold enough to put it on MTV,” one of the group’s founding members Darryl ‘DMC’ McDaniels says when NME caught up with the rap icon for the latest edition of our In Conversation video series.. To the layman listener, Kraftwerk might seem like an odd choice on a record of classic-era rap influences, but as DMC puts it: “Kraftwerk created hip-hop.” DMC may be adding a bit of hyperbole, but it’s hard to argue that he doesn’t have a point.. “Kraftwerk were a foundation of hip-hop not just because of their music, but they built their own machines and computers,” DMC says.. ‘Trans Europe Express’, in particular, was a huge favourite among hip-hop DJs in New York City at the time: “It was one of those songs that played in every park and block party.. “The culture that Kraftwerk came out of was the exact same feeling that the hip-hop culture was beginning to give birth to… White German people and black people from the Bronx are not different, is what I’m trying to say.”. “Kenny G is music and hip-hop is nothing without music.. People are so caught up with race that they wouldn’t give a black kid the benefit of the doubt that he listens to Kenny G. The bottom line is: it’s music.. Obviously ‘Walk This Way’, the group’s cross-genre collab with classic-rockers Aerosmith has a firm place on the new release – it one of the first hip-hop music videos to be played heavily on television.. DMC remembers of working with the band: “Steven Tyler is that kid that would come over your house and play with you all day that your mother and father have to kick out of the house.. He’s the guy who did country music and blues – he’s Kraftwerk, Kenny G, Run DMC and James Brown all rolled up into one.”. Run-DMC and Aerosmith reunited to perform ‘Walk This Way’ at the Grammys back in January, what DMC jokes as being “the last great thing to happen this year”.. Well, that’s exactly what happens to DMC every single year thanks to Run-DMC’s festive classic ‘Christmas In Hollis’.. He adds: “Somebody recently told me that before Run DMC came along, Christmas songs were just traditional records – either Bing Crosby or Nat King Cole… [But] it helps the world know that hip-hop is a legitimate form of music.. You can have Bing Crosby, you can have Nat King Cole, Dolly Parton doing her Christmas thing, Mariah Carey – and you can damn sure have some hip-hop doing its Christmas thing.. “It’s kind of perfect timing because people are gonna want to be happy next year, because this year was so crazy,” DMC says, before adding: “What I think should happen is that DJs should do remixes of their favourite ‘Raising Hell’ songs, or everyone who was influenced by us should do a remake of a Run-DMC song.

    Tougher than leather: Run DMC in 1986.. Between 1983 and 1988 the albums Run-DMC , King of Rock , Raising Hell and Tougher Than Leather unleashed classic tracks such as Hard Times, It’s Tricky, Proud to Be Black, Mary, Mary, and Walk This Way .. Rolling Stone’s behind the ho … I’m fuckin’ out of control.” DMC demurs: “I was never on it like him … Run and Jay smoked more weed than a Rastafarian god could grow.”. Jay’s murder remains unsolved.. “‘Jay travelled and they got Jay.. I’ve got my wife and kids.’” DMC believes in an afterlife.

    Legendary rap group Run-DMC teams up with Fanatics to launch a new product line that will be featured across multiple professional sports leagues and pro teams.. XXL : How did this partnership with Fanatics come about?. : Fanatics came to us and they said they wanted to do something that was going to incorporate the Run-DMC iconic logo with sports.. When you see the Run-DMC logo, it’s one of those logos that you identify with.. Or you'll see the Run-DMC logo in green because it's representing the Boston Celtics, so it’s a good thing and it’s flattering to us because after 36 years in existence our logo and our presence still earn respect.. At the time the logo was created people, thought hip-hop was gonna be a fad and it was going to be over after 10 years, but not only did our music withstand the winds of time, so did our presence and our logo, but for us it was just something to put on our shirts.. People tell me that when Steven Tyler took the mic stand and knocked the wall down in our "Walk This Way" video, that it didn’t just happen in the video, it happened around the world, so we had no idea it was going to be so huge.. People tell me it’s like the McDonalds or it's like the Coca-Cola, or it's like the Rolling Stones logo and the Run-DMC logo is one of the most recognized logos of all time.. Look, we were just rapping and making beats at the time and all we wanted to do was rhyme and we had no idea that we would have such an influence on culture outside of our music.. This project here combines music, fashion, hip-hop and sports, you know what I’m saying?. Everywhere we go we see the shirts.” I like the fact that the whole Run-DMC logo and presence influenced a lot of people and I’m talking about even designers who work in fashion and styling because whether it be the leather pants, the Adidas shoes, tracksuits or hats.. Did you ever think that hip-hop was going to be so accepted by people in the fashion industry?. Better things is gonna come, but something that is real and innocent will always be there!. We put put out a YouTube video dealing with all the shootings that’s going on in America.. They didn’t have to shoot anyone in these situations and it took John Moyer, a white boy in a rock group to say, "Yo, let's say something real about this!"

    When Joe saw them, he was like “Oh, hell no!” So, he continued to stay in Russell’s ear, and when he told Joe that he could make a record, Joe told him, “I’m going to put Darryl McDaniels in the group.” Russell said, “Darryl doesn’t do any of this.. Even though “It’s Like That” had a bass line, we felt like we needed to make records like Kraftwerk’s “ Numbers .” Our whole thing was we wanted to make beat jams, and Larry and Russell were clever enough to turn our beat records into songs that would fit a radio format.. We wanted to do what was being done on the live tapes of all the pioneers before us, but we also wanted to make records like Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five’s “ Superrappin ,’” The Treacherous Three’s “ New Rap Language ,” and The Crash Crew’s “ Breaking Bells .” We wanted to put the park jams, street block party routines, and rhymes on records like Grandmaster Flash, The Treacherous Three, and Afrika Bambaataa were doing before “ Rapper’s Delight ” became the commercial template.. I had books of rhymes, and I would come into the studio, and Russell asked, “Yo, D. Let me see your rhyme books.” He would go through my rhyme books and he would tell me, “Say that one, that one, and that one.” Then, he would say, “Joey, go in there and do an eight bar intro, and Larry, you make the music.” It was that easy.. The advantage was…we had structure because Larry was a great musician…If you listen to “Rock Box,” I could rhyme the whole record, but Larry would instruct us by saying, “OK, so right there, Jay, you have to pause right there and let the record breathe.” [Without Larry] “Rock Box” would’ve been like Spoonie Gee’s “ Love Rap ” or Jimmy Spicer’s “ Adventure of Super Rhymes .” They would just rhyme.. The “Rock Box” scheme was I rhymed all the way to the end of the record, but the part in the song where it breaks down to the bells, Larry would cut the tape to edit it, so that even though there was no chorus, Larry would tell us to make sure we let the record breathe.. My routine for the early days was I would get up, go grab my 40 ounce [beer], go to the studio, lay down our records, leave and go home with Joe, and Jay would stay with Larry and Roddie in the studio to put the damn album together.

    The album is a cultural landmark, introducing legendary rappers Joseph “Run” Simmons and Darryl “D.M.C.” McDaniels, plus their DJ Jason “Jam Master Jay” Mizell, each of whom hailed from Hollis, Queens.. Another song on their debut, “Rock Box,” holds the distinction of being the first hip-hop video ever played on MTV.. “Rock Box” The group was reportedly hesitant to record “Rock Box,” as they felt the song’s initial bass groove wasn’t up to par; Later, producer Larry Smith won their approval by changing the keyboard patch to something with more girth.. It’s less of a song than an experience, something to be played at a party.. It’s the aggressive sound of a drum machine gone wild.. Certainly one of the more R&B-centric cuts on the LP, but they couldn’t ditch musicality for an entire LP.. “Jay’s Game” A final nod from Jam Master Jay, who cuts up a series of phrases by his bandmates (“J-A-Y are the letters of his name….. without Jam Master Jay.

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